I don’t understand how a person can be for abortions after the point of viability you could literally just have an induced labor or a ceasarian and put it up for adoption at that point
What are you talking about? Over 90% of abortions happen in the first trimester. 99% happen by week 21. (http://abort73.com/abortion_facts/us_abortion_statistics/) And that final 1% after week 21 is nessesitated for life of the mother and/or the fetus is already dying.
A fetus has about a 20% chance of surviving at week 23 if born premature. Viability is generally defined at 24 weeks is the US with extreme medical intervention (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/11753511/) and remember, full term is defined as 40 weeks.
So honest to fuck: what are you talking about?
Honestly, I agree with OP. In the extremely rare case an elective abortion happens after viability, there should be a concentrated effort to save the fetus, if only for the medical knowledge and appeasing the pro-life crowd.
But that’s my point: elective abortions dont happen past the point of viability. Its like, not a thing that happens.
my point was there are some people out there that are for it and think it should be a right, which is bizarre to me because after that point the 3rd trimester abortion proceedure actually involves a 3 day wait and then goin through labor so in an emergency its actually quicker to have a ceasarian and there seems o need for abortions at that point at all
What youre describing doesnt happen. Elective abortions are not performed past the point of viability. The only abortions that happen that late are medically nessesitated. Do you have any evidence that this is a thing that actually occurs?
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.3109/14767058.2013.779661
this has not actually happened, but i felt like it is relevant to this argument that people would actually think “after-birth abortion” is ok. the fact that people see this amd think “oh thats fine.” is not okay.
on the other hand i know that most pro-choicers are not for this/ like this. but i believe in always having and keeping in mind the points and pros and cons of both sides of the pro-choice/ pro-life argument so as to not let extremists on either side make any actually progress towards whatever immoral goals they want to bring about. again this goes for both sides. i just think its good to keep in mind that not EVERY pro choicer has thr same moral values that dictate your opinions on the matter.
sorry if this is messy and lowkey irrelevant
What the fuck are you talking about?
First of all, what even is this link? An editorial with barely 500 views and no crossref citations? Making vague allusions to two unnamed authors with no citation as to who the hell those people supposedly are?
“After Birth Abortions” (Which isn’t even what was being discussed here) is absolutely not a thing. And no one I have ever met, pro-choice or otherwise, has ever seriously put forth the idea of infanticide as a method of family planning.
You’ve invented some asinine strawman to attack so you can claim there’s extremists on both sides, but like, YOU INVENTED those extremists. It’s nonsense.